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  1. #11
    wow i have no idea why Eric is freaking out. like he said himself it is a simple concept but they are just FANTASIES! but for some reason this is some weird problem?! or feminist conspiracy!? that b/c these women have these thoughts SOMETIMES....what? what are you trying to get from this?

    the study just goes around in circles anyway(btw its a great study) but come the fuck on. you act like you dont know what a fantasy is. its always something you want to say to someone you like or dont like but never do. these things are healthy for you to have. it helps you rationalize many things. and most every one knows rape is bad, but , like most fucking things, its an area where many people dont get to experience. or want to actually. so what do they do? just dream up things from what they know, or rather what they think they know.


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    Now. Ro-bot.
    No. Men do not walk around and thinking about raping women's. We simple don't do that.
    Fantasizing about having submissive partner is something different.
    If you don't see the difference, my advice is that you contact some Psycho doctor because you need help.
    Also I find suspicious you even claiming that
    Yes some men do. Like i said i have many talks with people and men do think this. I dont think men in this group do. and you said "thinking", i said fantasize.

    there is a difference yes but in the study i see words that stand out like submission, having no control, being scared. one of the real differences with submission and rape. you eventually give in. HOWEVER in these fantasies, some women give in, as they admitted.

    and why do you find it suspicious?
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  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Crumbock View Post
    No, I don't have fantasies about killing anyone. Not even my ex's boyfriend. Sometimes when I am angry, but not often, and I know full well I would receive no pleasure in it, even if I got away with it. Anger is not a fantasy. Its not a reasonable analogy.
    Nor do I fantasize about raping a woman. If I have any consistent fantasy, it would be a fantastic and affordable hooker I could have as I please, and then go back to real life, relaxed and relieved. Vending machine sex. Service my needs for a fair price, then go away.
    My cynicism is a direct product of my experience, just like the other men here. It is not something native to my nature. It is simply self-defense in an ugly culture. As a man, I love women. I long to love and be loved, not trapped in a battle with a fat, angry, treacherous wolverine. I have a conscience and live by it. I take pride in my fairness and integrity. I am proud of what I am, even though it makes me an Enemy of the State.
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    hey, thats wonderful. And i get what youre saying. u_u)

    <.< also i too would just love to afford an awesome male hooker(?) for a while. ( know its like, grr youre a woman you can "manipulate" any idiot to sleep with you, you she-devil!!) but i want what you want.
    “If you are alone you belong entirely to yourself. If you are accompanied by even one companion you belong only half to
    yourself, or even less, in proportion to the thoughtlessness of his conduct; and if you have more than one companion you will fall more deeply into the same plight."

  3. #13
    I was first getting into Computers & the internet just after the mid nineties. One of the hottest things going in those days were the ADULT chat rooms where people could anonymously explore their sexuality with total strangers. The "Rape" rooms were always filled most of the day. If you were to get into one of them, you would see that there was a higher proportion of females to males.

    Yahoo had many of these. One of the most popular ones was titled, "Slut Rape and Humiliation". Not only about rape but the female being humiliated.

    I used to wonder why this was. I concluded that just as there are so many young guys who don't know how to go out and hook up with girls, that there must be a large number of girls who don't know anything about how to
    attract guys to them and "go from there". So should they put themselves in a position where they are "raped"
    (and provided that it is an experience they found some positive merit to) then they wouldn't ever say anything.
    You often hear of so many females never admitting to having been raped.

    The last time this became a big talking point was when the book "50 Shades of Gray" came out and women were all over it. It was a BDSM themed book. So many guys can't understand that kind of stuff, but for the girls they can enjoy being a victim as they have no responsibility and aren't complicit in the event. Like an innocent by stander getting sexed. (and rationalizing in her mind, "I'm a good girl, I didn't do nothing to cause this")

    I think most guys suspect the girls who cry rape are attention whoring. Possibly trying to attain some social
    standing in the community without having to do anything to achieve it. Just cry rape and hoards of do gooders come to carry you on their shoulders to a better life.
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  4. #14
    Imho the topic is out of expertise area of most people. What is the "teaching" of this topic/survey. That women actually want to be taken by force, no questions asked. Sometimes. Because some of them maybe can't attract men properly.

    I see this survey just proving again how emotionally driven people in general are. Even the ones who claim/portray that they are totally logical.

  5. #15
    ^^^^^^ IAGWTP


    to me i think most women do not have great sex. they dont even know what its truly like to be in a D/s sexual relationship so they have these fantasies to live out some sexual release from what porn tells them and what ever gawd awful things i guess magazines are saying these days. /facepalm


    I concluded that just as there are so many young guys who don't know how to go out and hook up with girls, that there must be a large number of girls who don't know anything about how to
    attract guys to them and "go from there".
    when i first became aware of my sexuality, i did have these fantasies. today i rationalize it as there was no one i could imagine having sex with, or wanting to have sex with me. nor could i understand what sex would feel like. but watching porn and movies it was almost always somewhat violent but satisfying. so yeah.

    anyway i find this to be completely normal for people to have and the study even says this is only one of 3 fantasies common with women.


    anyway i shared this study with some people who are into "rape-play/ consensual non-consent" and they believe that the wording should change as well and would yield even more of a response.
    “If you are alone you belong entirely to yourself. If you are accompanied by even one companion you belong only half to
    yourself, or even less, in proportion to the thoughtlessness of his conduct; and if you have more than one companion you will fall more deeply into the same plight."

  6. #16
    Do I believe there are women who fantasize of being raped? Yes. Do I believe there are men who fantasize about raping women. Yes. I personally know men and women who do, BUT I also believe this study might be misleading in terms of both percentages and labels.

    In my personal experience most women fantasize about being RAVISHED (pretense of non-consent) and a smaller percentage of people about actual rape (non-consent). And, I think that a lot of people might use the words 'rape fantasy' when they actually mean 'ravishment fantasy'. I like the way Bortasz put it. The woman pretends to not want to have sex and the man instinctively knows it's just a test to see if he will take charge or not.

    I have both rape and ravishment fantasies, but the ravishment fantasies far outweigh the rape fantasies and even in the rape fantasies I do not 'get physically hurt'.
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  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ro-bot View Post
    I think i should, as a chick, maybe clear some of this up? but know, its just me explaining... myself ... which i am usually bad at but OK HERE WE GO!

    when i first become.. i guess aware of my sexuality i did have lots of sex dreams or fantasies.now, i am a very sexual person. i think about sex more than anybody should.i may have rationalized it differently then others but the "rape" dreams are basically more about someone taking you and giving you what you want. showing you what you like. but also, these fantasies, are just that. a lot of people think about killing others and doing other things they would never otherwise do. i think its important to realize that. Just b.c someone has fantasies of some hot guy pushing you up against a wall in an ally way and banging you nice and dirty doesnt mean they actually want to do that, because regardless, that is scary as shit. i think thats pretty simple to understand.

    Now in the BDSM community there are people that are into what they call "consensual non-consent" but to me the concept seems mostly just like hardcore sadomasochism. those who take that stuff seriously are really good at getting into the head space of " i do not want this."

    besides, i'm sure lots of guys have rape fantasies as well and do go around actually wanting to rape people.
    I've had fantasies of being sexually assaulted by a woman, but I've also actually experienced being sexually assaulted by a woman. I'd also suffered childhood molestation and wonder how much that might have contributed to such fantasies. I'm a heterosexual male and she was physically attractive. In spite of that, the experience traumatized me especially since it was unprotected. You're absolutely correct that to fantasize about it and to actually experience it are two different things entirely.

    Perhaps ironically, my 'rape' fantasies escalated to ever more masochistic sex fantasies finally bordering on the macabre after I'd experienced the real thing. These fantasies intertwined with suicidal ideation and I sometimes had difficulty drawing the line between them.

    I wonder how much past trauma might contribute to such fantasies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berne View Post
    Do I believe there are women who fantasize of being raped? Yes. Do I believe there are men who fantasize about raping women. Yes. I personally know men and women who do, BUT I also believe this study might be misleading in terms of both percentages and labels.

    In my personal experience most women fantasize about being RAVISHED (pretense of non-consent) and a smaller percentage of people about actual rape (non-consent). And, I think that a lot of people might use the words 'rape fantasy' when they actually mean 'ravishment fantasy'. I like the way Bortasz put it. The woman pretends to not want to have sex and the man instinctively knows it's just a test to see if he will take charge or not.

    I have both rape and ravishment fantasies, but the ravishment fantasies far outweigh the rape fantasies and even in the rape fantasies I do not 'get physically hurt'.
    Berne is back? Or perhaps we've just been on different threads as of late. Good to see you post again.

    It is probably worth noting that what Berne calls being ravished, feminists would label rape. It's not hard to see were confusion might be injected into such a study.

    Keep in mind the three brain model. A woman's hind brain is turned on by a male strong enough to take what he wants. Her neocortex is horrified by the idea. Her limbic system is stuck figuring out how she "feels" about it all. By nature, women are more conflicted about everything than men because the mission of our neocortex and hind brain are more in tune with each other. We have less to rationalize because our entire brain is geared toward acquiring. We don't have to worry about submitting to another being to protect us while we are completely helpless in the child bearing process.

    Women have to rationalize this difference. This frequently manifests as a rape fantasy. Men need to realize this does not correlate to them actually wanting to be raped. Feminists need to realize most women do want to submit to a strong man, and when they do, they should not be labeling it as rape. Good men are loosing everything because of this nonsense.

    Rape fantasies also free women from taking responsibility for their actions. How many false rape accusations are a result of some one night stand a boyfriend finds out about. It had to be rape right? She couldn't have "wanted it".

    Thinking Ro-bot is being dishonest about it is simply ridiculous. We don't often get the honest opinion of women in our day to day life. Anonymous internet forums are probably the only place it exists. When you come across it, you would be wise to learn from it.

    I haven't decided which is more dangerous, dating women who have such fantasies and are honest about it, or women who claim to not have such fantasies. Perhaps one of the ladies would be kind enough to weigh in.
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    I doubt men and women are as different as people think.

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