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  1. #11
    I have a few unused specialist tools lying the bottom of old ammo boxes going rusty.
    Electrolysis I suppose.
    anyway, they're still good for the job intended.

    ...just not needed right now.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

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    "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
    "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

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  2. #12
    SST: Is your entire "wage" comprised of tips? This is the problem with the system, not the people who don't tip. It shouldn't be left up to the customer how much you deserve to be paid. Have you ever questioned why a food service worker is "entitled" to tips but a Walmart Csr isn't? Are they not both customer service gigs?
    I can tell you why I tip when eating out but don't tip the Walmart Csr's, because I don't want someone else's saliva or other bodily fluids in my damn food!

    Tipping is an unbalanced practice throughout the service industry, where do we draw the line at who deserves a tip and who doesn't? How do we enforce it? How are customers supposed to fairly decide who gets a tip when they lose nothing from not tipping a Walmart employee/cab driver but get to enjoy a steak marinated in saliva if they don't provide a "proper" tip at a restaurant? Tipping does nothing to improve customer service, it just gives csr's an excuse to treat customers who don't tip badly.
    On top of this, tipping has somehow given restaurants and other service industries a loophole to avoid the minimum wage, as if we needed any more evidence about who actually controls the cesspit of government.

    I know it's tough to see the bigger picture when your in the trenches, and I do sympathize, but the only thing you'll gain from lying about the customers is a fast track to unemployment. These customers might very well be protesting the bigger picture rather than your quality of service. Direct your anger towards the corporation you work for that treats you like dirt, direct your anger towards your government that colludes with these despicable sub humans to give these corporations a pass on the minimum wage. Recognize that many of your customers may see a minimum wage as something that is actually enforced, and might forgo the tip in the vain hope that the twisted fucks you work for might toss you a few more scraps.
    Last edited by mik1; 01-31-2017 at 10:06 PM.

  3. #13
    On a different note, do you have any specialized job skills? The goal of the food/customer service industry isn't to train you in anything useful, it's to keep you a slave.
    Idiots go to college, intelligent individuals learn the material at their own pace, obtained for free online. Then you can pay a certification company for peanuts compared to a degree.

    I have personally gone the route of CompTIA certs, A+, Network+, Security+, gets you on the fast track to becoming an IT security professional. Training videos are available for free from Professor Messer. Teach yourself and pay ~1200$ for certifications, or be a slave to the education system and pay 20000$+, it's your choice.
    The other benefit of my current route is that I don't have to wait until I have security+ to get out there and work at an above minimum wage job.
    I currently only have A+ which gets me a 5-6$ boost over minimum wage. I can complete the other certs on my own time as I further my real world experience.

    Good luck my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik1 View Post
    On a different note, do you have any specialized job skills?
    I believe he claims a Degree in Physics...

    ...which is apparently ample qualification to decide which pizza customers to penalize for non-compliance and which not.

    SST seems lately to hold several jobs...the latest being chicken inspector, and Pizza boy

    Manages to assert and report a generally awful underappreciated experience everywhere.

    Maybe business and govt arent interested in overqualified under performers.
    Dunno.

    I once had guy asking me for a job, was amply qualified M ElecEng.
    Dunno what it was, when talking to him, just knew it wasn't right.

    A few years later was on a training course and he showed up as well.
    During lunch, literally with a black beret on, he spiraled into a weird little rant that included the oligarchy, corruption and the rising of 'the people'
    All I did was ask a few questions to clear up some of his world view.
    So yeah, it ended even weirder.
    With a bit of vicious deriding snarl.
    Apparently 'people like us' are the problem and the Anti Fascists are gonna rise and take what is rightfully theirs.
    Destroying all wrong thinkers in the process.
    ...and righting the world again.

    I laughed ...Finally, I asked him what he's doing now ... Self Employed and apparently building an empire.
    wheels within wheels.
    The mind boggles

    He is so utterly convinced about everything and everybody.
    Wants a revolution
    Brings his personal politics into spaces that arent his to broker
    Cant seem to find a job (everybody in the industry moves him along quick-smart)
    Cant seem to keep a customer now that he's self employed.
    and he cannot understand why he cant catch a break...you know because because his politics are righteous, and qualifications are outstanding

    Its pretty obvious to everybody...except him.
    He is a sanctimonious, revolutionary, pain in the arse that holds everybody in contempt.
    Colleagues, customers, bosses, governments, regulatory bodies, pretty much everybody within earshot.

    Kind of sad in my opinion.
    He could hold his politics as long as he held his tongue. but he cant.

    Unfortunately, what he is selling, aint what gets delivered.
    Its really just a labeling problem.

    He needs to change the label to reflect the true contents of what he's promising.

    ...or

    Change the contents to match the label.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

    And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

    "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
    "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

    "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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    Have you talked to any recruiters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik1 View Post
    SST: Is your entire "wage" comprised of tips?
    $4.50/hour plus tips. Minimum wage is $7.25. Wal-Mart starts at $10.

    5 years ago, I did a 6 month stint of this, and averaged out to around $15/hour (before gas, insurance, maintenance, etc). They transferred me to another store, and it dropped to about $12 because that area didn't tip as well, so I quit. I'm only back because now, I can't find $12/hour, but this time around, I'm averaging about $8/hour, because tips are almost non-existent. Consider those other factors, like insurance, and I'm not making minimum wage.

    It also doesn't help that a lawsuit was decided in between, with drivers suing the company for not getting paid enough; they won, the settlement money went to the lawyers, and the judge wrote a court-ordered compensation plan.... that is worse than what we had before, and we can't change it because it's court ordered.

    That's "private" justice, for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik1 View Post
    On a different note, do you have any specialized job skills? The goal of the food/customer service industry isn't to train you in anything useful, it's to keep you a slave.
    Idiots go to college, intelligent individuals learn the material at their own pace, obtained for free online. Then you can pay a certification company for peanuts compared to a degree.

    I have personally gone the route of CompTIA certs, A+, Network+, Security+, gets you on the fast track to becoming an IT security professional. Training videos are available for free from Professor Messer. Teach yourself and pay ~1200$ for certifications, or be a slave to the education system and pay 20000$+, it's your choice.
    The other benefit of my current route is that I don't have to wait until I have security+ to get out there and work at an above minimum wage job.
    I currently only have A+ which gets me a 5-6$ boost over minimum wage. I can complete the other certs on my own time as I further my real world experience.

    Good luck my friend
    I've got a CCNA; my last interview for a network engineer was a group interview with 10 people, for a $25,000/year job. That's the local job market. A+ gets you $8/hour.

    I've got a B.S. in physics and chemistry, with some research work; I graduated right after Obama killed the successor to the space shuttle program and laid off 15% of all the physicists in the country. I have been competing with guys with master's degrees and a couple of years at NASA for $12/hour lab tech jobs.

    I originally trained as an electronics and control systems tech.... just as the last of the manufacturing left town in the 1990s. Foreign manufacturers have come in, but I'm trained on the wrong brand of control system (it doesn't make any difference, but the HR airheads don't know that, and you can't tell them anything). The only job I ever had from that was working in a sweatshop 60 hours/week on a salary of $23,000 ($6.31/hour), which fired me for showing up 3 minutes late after visiting my sick 5-week-old son in the hospital.

    I really don't know what to do next; sometimes I think that I should try joining the military, to see if that would cause all war to stop.

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    In my state minimum wage is $11 and food service workers must be paid at least the minimum wage.
    So I don't really feel like I should have to tip. But I do it at places I frequent, to prevent any drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deidre View Post
    Have you talked to any recruiters?
    The local job market is pretty well locked down by one recruiting company (Aerotek), which has rejected me for any relevant position on the basis that I do not have any technical education. See above.

    The part that really galls me is that the university that I spent $25,000 getting a degree from closed their placement office the year before I graduated, and now just has an "alumni" job search page; it's the university logo at the top of one of the big job search websites (Taleo).

    Basically, I get up at 6 am every morning, and spend 3 hours applying for jobs. Actually, it's a little less, now that I don't have to bother with the USAjobs website....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phobos View Post
    In my state minimum wage is $11 and food service workers must be paid at least the minimum wage.
    So I don't really feel like I should have to tip. But I do it at places I frequent, to prevent any drama.
    That's better, but you do understand that, compared to 1960 and adjusted for inflation, minimum wage should be over $20/hour now, right?

    We've been robbed.

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