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    Donald Trump Jr. interview about his meeting with russian government.

    Donald Jr tweeted a series of emails where he sets up a meeting with a russian government official who was going to hand him information that can help Trump on his campaign.

    What this forum call "libertards" are going nuts on the content of this emails, as they indicate evidence of collusion and treason... or so they say...

    Here the interview where Jr, explain his point of view, the why he assisted to the meeting... and what not:



    If someone want to read the say published emails by Jr... here is a link:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politi...ils/index.html
    Last edited by simpleman; 07-12-2017 at 02:41 PM.

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    Someone who new Trump Jr. claimed to have dirt on Hillary... Trump Jr. check it out... it was bullshit. If it is illegal to seek out dirt on your political opponent... then pretty much every presidential candidate in US history is guilty of this crime.

    The double-standards are breathtaking... Ukraine publicly endorsed Hillary AND manufactured dirt against Trump... and yet we all know if she won the election nobody would think twice about it.

    The hysteria continues... completely predictable. The Media was 'all in' on Hillary and they rolled snake eyes. They were so close to importing enough voters to ensure a permanent democratic leadership in the white house... the Trump card really pisses them off beyond human imagination.

    Listening to dirt on a political opponent is only collusion and treason if a republican does it... ah the joyous sophistry of the communist ideology in full display for the world to gaze upon.

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    who cares?

    holy fuck if hilary had had dirt on trump her reaction would have been exactly what all these reporters are reporting.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggy View Post
    Someone who new Trump Jr. claimed to have dirt on Hillary... Trump Jr. check it out... it was bullshit. If it is illegal to seek out dirt on your political opponent... then pretty much every presidential candidate in US history is guilty of this crime.

    The double-standards are breathtaking... Ukraine publicly endorsed Hillary AND manufactured dirt against Trump... and yet we all know if she won the election nobody would think twice about it.

    The hysteria continues... completely predictable. The Media was 'all in' on Hillary and they rolled snake eyes. They were so close to importing enough voters to ensure a permanent democratic leadership in the white house... the Trump card really pisses them off beyond human imagination.

    Listening to dirt on a political opponent is only collusion and treason if a republican does it... ah the joyous sophistry of the communist ideology in full display for the world to gaze upon.

    I'm *STILL* happy I voted for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggy View Post
    Someone who new Trump Jr. claimed to have dirt on Hillary... Trump Jr. check it out... it was bullshit. If it is illegal to seek out dirt on your political opponent... then pretty much every presidential candidate in US history is guilty of this crime.
    "Someone" who works for the russian government contact Jr, with info the Russian government want to hand Trump as part of the effort of the russian government to manipulate the elections... you mean???

    The double-standards are breathtaking... Ukraine publicly endorsed Hillary AND manufactured dirt against Trump... and yet we all know if she won the election nobody would think twice about it.
    Your imagination is breathtaking... we all know that if???... really we all know the events of parallel universes?

    The hysteria continues... completely predictable. The Media was 'all in' on Hillary and they rolled snake eyes. They were so close to importing enough voters to ensure a permanent democratic leadership in the white house... the Trump card really pisses them off beyond human imagination.
    Evil media...

    Listening to dirt on a political opponent is only collusion and treason if a republican does it... ah the joyous sophistry of the communist ideology in full display for the world to gaze upon.
    I am not a lawyer... but the email clearly states that it is the russian government...

    Nothing to say at all about it???

    Anyway, this is all on the pass now, and it is not like Trump is just goign to handed the country to Russia, just because they helped him a bit...

    We are even friends now... Russial will be in charge of the security of our next elections... nothing weird about it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggy View Post
    Someone who new Trump Jr. claimed to have dirt on Hillary... Trump Jr. check it out... it was bullshit. If it is illegal to seek out dirt on your political opponent... then pretty much every presidential candidate in US history is guilty of this crime.
    "Someone" who works for the russian government contact Jr, with info the Russian government want to hand Trump as part of the effort of the russian government to manipulate the elections... you mean???

    The double-standards are breathtaking... Ukraine publicly endorsed Hillary AND manufactured dirt against Trump... and yet we all know if she won the election nobody would think twice about it.
    Your imagination is breathtaking... we all know that if???... really we all know the events of parallel universes?

    The hysteria continues... completely predictable. The Media was 'all in' on Hillary and they rolled snake eyes. They were so close to importing enough voters to ensure a permanent democratic leadership in the white house... the Trump card really pisses them off beyond human imagination.
    Evil media...

    Listening to dirt on a political opponent is only collusion and treason if a republican does it... ah the joyous sophistry of the communist ideology in full display for the world to gaze upon.
    I am not a lawyer... but the email clearly states that it is the russian government...

    Nothing to say at all about it???

    Anyway, this is all on the pass now, and it is not like Trump is just goign to handed the country to Russia, just because they helped him a bit...

    We are even friends now... Russial will be in charge of the security of our next elections... nothing weird about it...


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    The fact that the DNC and Clinton campaign took significant funding from several middle eastern nations does not require a parallel universe. The premise of the email was that someone in the Russian government had dirt on Hillary colluding with them... so if you propose the email statement is factual, or plausible, then you need to accept that the claim is also either factual or plausible.

    Journalists and investigators check out leads all the time, that does not mean they are colluding? If Hillary did something illegal, and god knows that's not a hard thing to imagine, then how is it a problem for anyone to investigate the claim? Is it treason for US citizens to talk to Russian citizens about the possibility of crimes being committed by either? If that's the case then isn't any person who asked Vladimir Putin (the ultimate Russian government official) a question about Russian hacking is also colluding with the Russians.

    The word 'manipulation' is a sophist trick... it is not a manipulation to expose the illegal activities of someone running for president... as the media certainly tried to demonstrate time and time again. If Trump Jr. got evidence of Hillary committing a crime.. and he turned that over to the FBI... is that colluding with the Russians... or is that in the interest of the US to expose a corrupted politician running for office?

    In this case, Trump Jr. investigated a claim... turned out to be false... and didn't have anything to pass on to anyone... nor was he legally obligated to my understanding to pass on a rumor to any authorities. Trump Jr. is not state employee... he is a private citizen.

    Projection... the heart and soul of sophists everywhere.


    95%+ of the media... as individuals.. registered and donated to the democrat campaign. That is bias on a massive level, and the collusion between CNN and DNC has been exposed time and time again.

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    So... ya... the 'Russian government official' that claimed to have dirt on Hillary and wanted to 'help' Trump win the election... Natalia Veselnitskaya.. is an anti-Trump, DNC related contact, that spent time with the Obama administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggy View Post
    The fact that the DNC and Clinton campaign took significant funding from several middle eastern nations does not require a parallel universe. The premise of the email was that someone in the Russian government had dirt on Hillary colluding with them... so if you propose the email statement is factual, or plausible, then you need to accept that the claim is also either factual or plausible.
    Accordingly to Jr. this meeting did not bring any substantial harmful information about Hillary... did you watch the video, he clearly says there that he wasted 20 minutes on this meeting...

    so your premise that the say information about hillary must be true... is bases on the premises that there never was any say information... still not stopping Jr and the Russians to try...

    I am sure there is dirt on Hillary, but in this whole scandal your logic is faulty, if we are to believe what Jr says.

    Journalists and investigators check out leads all the time, that does not mean they are colluding? If Hillary did something illegal, and god knows that's not a hard thing to imagine, then how is it a problem for anyone to investigate the claim?
    Jr. was not a journalist or an investigator... he was part of the team of a presidential campaign, who was perfectly fine in having secret meetings with russian officials if they can gain something from there.

    I still fail to see the reason why he acepted to be part of this meeting.

    Is it treason for US citizens to talk to Russian citizens about the possibility of crimes being committed by either? If that's the case then isn't any person who asked Vladimir Putin (the ultimate Russian government official) a question about Russian hacking is also colluding with the Russians.
    No, there is a big difference between asking questions and making moves and alliances to win an election.

    The word 'manipulation' is a sophist trick... it is not a manipulation to expose the illegal activities of someone running for president... as the media certainly tried to demonstrate time and time again. If Trump Jr. got evidence of Hillary committing a crime.. and he turned that over to the FBI... is that colluding with the Russians... or is that in the interest of the US to expose a corrupted politician running for office?
    He never turned it to the FBI, he actually denied that this meeting ever happens, until evidence come out of it, then he tweet this emails... there is an FBI investigation and Jr told the FBI even more extrange information... so definitely he is not cooperating with the FBI.... and this is why it is going to congress now...

    In this case, Trump Jr. investigated a claim... turned out to be false... and didn't have anything to pass on to anyone... nor was he legally obligated to my understanding to pass on a rumor to any authorities. Trump Jr. is not state employee... he is a private citizen.
    Apparently there is a legal obligation... He should have hired a lawyer so help him with legal stuff about campaigns... Hopefully this mess does not affect him too bad... still he should have known better and have a lawyer in there, all this could have being prevented... that is my take from the video.

    Projection... the heart and soul of sophists everywhere.

    95%+ of the media... as individuals.. registered and donated to the democrat campaign. That is bias on a massive level, and the collusion between CNN and DNC has been exposed time and time again.
    Because there is not real difference between CNN and KGB... I guess?

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    Show a source that describes the legal obligation you are claiming. "Secret meeting".. "making moves".. again just a load of sophistry terms used to imply malevolent intend. Not an argument.

    If there is a legal obligation, then the only moral thing to do is apply this standard universally. I doubt that will happen... because this particular kind of 'meeting' is so commonplace it would incriminate darn near everyone.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...t-coast-215048
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    You can drop the KGB CNN bullcrap.. I am not playing the quote reply dance on snarky comments. Media bias is self-reported and well documented.

    Trump Jr. took the meeting to find out if there was evidence that his political opponent was colluding, ironically with the Russians. His intent was to uncover evidence, which is precisely the job of any campaign team, who investigate their opponents all the time.

    Implying immorality is not the same as proving immorality. Provide evidence.. otherwise it's just an attempt at character assassination.

    Did Trump Jr. actually meet with a Russian government official? Nope... it was a fake.. so nothing to report and his private meetings with other private citizens is nobodies business.

    And it looks more and more like a DNC setup for the FIFA court spying on the Trump campaign. How the worm turns.

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