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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixTransform View Post
    maybe, but yr paying nothing forward at all.
    Yup... I am not a socialist... you got that right.

    You arent creating.
    I don't have to...

    you arent retaining a culture, either your own culturally, or in a racial sense or radical western sense.
    Culture is overrated.

    you arent procreating
    God forbids... LOL

    Let me put it this way... do YOU really want more of me?

    you arent participating.
    I do participate... but I am very picky in what... so... I am not participating in the 99.99% of the stuff that is out there.

    youre a number
    666

    a visa card
    a stream of future payments...one video game at a a time.
    Funny enough since videogame creators have started to cater to feminism... I have lost interest in new games... So I think I am going to mostly stay with old games now...

    So one positive thing feminism is doing for me is to help me save money... first by ruining family and, now by ruining videogames...

    youre a useless piece of shit.
    I think I can agree to that.

    a daggy attachment to the hair on the arse of humanity.
    Well... people have always say that I am very detached.... so i am going to claim that if I manage to attach to something... there was progress....

    see dick head, people like me are at the thinking chewing end of things ...
    People like me does not care...

    you are the detritus of society that I bear the burden of creating for.
    You don't really have to create anything for me... however, if your creation is functional, better, cheap and conveniently displayed at my local walmart... maybe you can get some of my hard earned money... LOL

    gotta ask the quest why anybody would bother listening to any of the gibber that flows from yr lips
    You bother about it... a lot... actually...

    youre consuming all the stuff, the energy, the bandwidth and the oxygen without really contributing anything back.
    I pay with money for my stuff... the people that give me the money probably think they are getting a good value for my time, otherwise they would not pay me for working...

    ...but you go believing yr the future.
    NO.

    I believe there is not future. I am the Present.

    retard.
    I love you too.

    Youre so fucking stupid its unbelievable and that you have the temerity to appear here among men and moan for more, more more....the mind boggles
    More what?

    like I said...retard, like many of yr millennial brethren.
    I think you are having a stroke...

    btw, those brethren of yours that do get it ... they are gonna strip yr bones
    Sure...

    useless
    Whatever.
    Last edited by simpleman; 12-07-2017 at 11:53 AM.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixTransform View Post
    the universe does not give a fuck how you feel soy-boy
    The universe cares the same about you... LOL

  3. #33
    the universe does not give a fuck how you feel soy-boy
    The universe cares the same about you... LOL
    Girls, girls, stop pulling each others' hair.

    M

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Manalysis View Post
    Girls, girls, stop pulling each others' hair.

    M
    I'm an angel, she started it, and she called me mean names...

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpleman View Post
    I think the core of the problem is that in the generations a lot of stuff have changed.

    So millennials don't really have the same priorities, goals in life, points of view... than older generations... and this have proven to be a huge problem for boomers.

    It is like they want to tell us that their ways are the correct ones and if we don't follow, then something must be wrong with us... thoug.... whatever the world was when they were at their peak... is not longer here anymore, and I have a feeling it will never be like that again... and mostly they are the ones that did all the changes we have now... lol...

    That is basically the whole article in the OP... a mediocre teacher trying to hide his shortcomings by bullying the students... and for some reason some celebrations because... someone is telling it like it is to the millennials... we have being told this stuff for like a decade already...

    A quote form that link:

    "One of the falsehoods that has been stuffed into your brain and pounded into place is that moral knowledge progresses inevitably, such that later generations are morally and intellectually superior to earlier generations, and that the older the source the more morally suspect that source is. There is a term for that. It is called chronological snobbery. Or, to use a term that you might understand more easily, “ageism.”"

    I can point out a lot of wrong on that... starting with an ISM right after ranting for like 8 paragraphs on how ignorant millennials are by slapping the ISM tag on everything they don't understand..

    Then, of course, the accusation that we are some arrogant or some, that we think we are better... I don't know a single person from my generation that thinks is better than older generations...

    I can actually give you pages of links accusing us exactly of the opposite... of low self esteem, of being under achievers... stuff like that...

    Here one said article:

    "Why Millennial Men Have Such A Hard Time Figuring Life Out"
    https://thoughtcatalog.com/chris-hav...ring-life-out/

    And here a quotes:

    "More men than ever before are underachieving, and addicted to pornography and video games."

    We truly don't think we are better... The people from my generation, that have family, likes to post pictures of the parents and grandparents with commentary in how they were cooler/better than us... there is a lot of video compilations of this pictures, here one of them I watched for fun few weeks ago:

    Pics That Prove Your Parents Were Cooler Than You
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-OXlxzrceM

    this all hit the worse in Japan... were the kids are expected to be better than the parents... then we have all this suicides in schools because kids fail to get the perfect grades, or to win that science contests... a lot of suicide children in Japan... then the shift came by... where they figure out they don't really have to be better, that is directly breaking a centennial tradition... but in the other hand, gain more freedom and more... happiness...

    This I say here is a actually a very important part of understanding my generation... here in the West we are told that we should be better than our parents a part of some form of natural dialectics... the highest education my grandfather had was primary school, while his kids made it to college... so I should... ???

    In Japan this is not some "idea out there" it is actually ingrain in their cultural codes... you have to be better than the older generations... Failure on this is a great dishonor and shame:

    "After gathering suicide notes from cases in 2006, police noticed a drastic increase in the number of students who blame overarching school pressures as the primary source of their problems. These school-related problems affect children of all ages more or less equally, whether those students were in elementary school or high school."
    http://www.newsweek.com/why-do-so-ma...mselves-391648

    Withdrawing society basically becomes a survival mechanism... even today I occasionally get news from Japan... a worker dies from overworking, or some like that... those who are still trying to beat the system and work up the corporate ladder... I guess...

    In the west we don't have as bad pressure... but it is still there, in a different way... all that crap bashing the boomers are having over the millennials... In part it is them saying that they are disappointed at us...

    But what can We do about it? I mean... I can say sorry... if that helps...

    The thing is that killing myself for decades... working really hard. So to afford the standard American Dream: 30+ years mortgage to live in suburbia, 40% taxes, a wife that does not really helps but at any moment can give you the standard divorce... I find it all very unattractive...

    I fancy better a part time, a small apartment, and my videogames and stuff... Today I played 4 hours of video games, by the way... usually it is more than that... you also can tell I expend significant time watching videos in youtube, and posting stuff online...
    I'll keep this short for you.

    I have three kids, 21, 27 and 32. I've never been able to teach them anything asside from setting an example and a little advice: No fear, stretch your boundaries and challenge yourself, life is simply a collection of experiences...go out and find them, I'm here for you.

    I'm not disappointed in you, my children or any other of our younger generation. For me things were much simpler in that if I wanted to eat, I worked. My parents did not have anything so I had no expectations until the point I decided I wanted more for myself. At that point, I did not look to anyone else, I simply focussed on myself and set out some goals. When I was young, I use to blame other things, other people for my woes...when I got older I stopped doing that and focussed on my decisions.

    Did I make good decisions? I think my first marriage was a disaster. My work and career as a Carpenter, Dishwasher, buss boy, laborer, landscaper, Military was not a bed of roses. Hell, I had one of my supervisors ask me why I kept "stepping on my dick all the time." At the time I responded with a snark: "at least I know which direction I'm headed." I was just like you in many ways.

    As far as generational bashing, I experienced that and more from the old Korean, Vietnam and WWII vets...hell, how can I top that experience.

    I don't know the answers, certainly can't provide them for you. What I can say is your problems are most likely bigger than old guys like me busting your chops.

    I wish you well, I really do.
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  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by simpleman View Post
    I fancy better a part time, a small apartment, and my videogames and stuff... Today I played 4 hours of video games, by the way... usually it is more than that... you also can tell I expend significant time watching videos in youtube, and posting stuff online...
    Quote Originally Posted by simpleman View Post
    I pay with money for my stuff... the people that give me the money probably think they are getting a good value for my time, otherwise they would not pay me for working...
    only a retard boasts about his cost and confuses it with his value
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

    And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

    "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
    "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

    "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Man View Post
    I'll keep this short for you.

    I have three kids, 21, 27 and 32. I've never been able to teach them anything asside from setting an example and a little advice: No fear, stretch your boundaries and challenge yourself, life is simply a collection of experiences...go out and find them, I'm here for you.

    I'm not disappointed in you, my children or any other of our younger generation. For me things were much simpler in that if I wanted to eat, I worked. My parents did not have anything so I had no expectations until the point I decided I wanted more for myself. At that point, I did not look to anyone else, I simply focussed on myself and set out some goals. When I was young, I use to blame other things, other people for my woes...when I got older I stopped doing that and focussed on my decisions.

    Did I make good decisions? I think my first marriage was a disaster. My work and career as a Carpenter, Dishwasher, buss boy, laborer, landscaper, Military was not a bed of roses. Hell, I had one of my supervisors ask me why I kept "stepping on my dick all the time." At the time I responded with a snark: "at least I know which direction I'm headed." I was just like you in many ways.

    As far as generational bashing, I experienced that and more from the old Korean, Vietnam and WWII vets...hell, how can I top that experience.

    I don't know the answers, certainly can't provide them for you. What I can say is your problems are most likely bigger than old guys like me busting your chops.

    I wish you well, I really do.
    I take it you individually are not bashing on the millennials, but that definitely is being done... mostly by people from your generation.

    I have being thinking about this, and I think the core of the problem is that we generally perceive your generation as extremely ambitious, probably irresponsible greedy, while, people from your generation perceive us as lacking of ambition.. maybe to the point if a lack of will or purpose?

    You mention it there:

    "I decided I wanted more for myself"

    That is... pretty much... everybody from your generation.

    The world was yours to take... I see the world today and it is like... it is not really worth taking it... you belong to what you own.

    In some way I understand it, how that ambition made sense at that point in time... If you like to read then you will have to buy books, and have a room to storage them... and so on... the same if you like music, arts... whatever... today if you like books, you can connect to the internet and access millions of them...

    Recently someone on this forums was telling me about a very rare book, hard to find, costing about $200 for a copy... or I can follow the giving link and download a free copy...

    My income is considered below poverty line, I have enough to pay my bills, and save a little bit of it... and I am not being sarcastic... I don't know what would I do with more money... save more?

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixTransform View Post
    only a retard boasts about his cost and confuses it with his value
    I don't get your point...

    You are the one talking about how worthless I am (value), and how much of an economical burden (cost) I am for you...

    All I say... is that the guys that pay me... probably think what I do have some value for them... and I use that money to cover my... cost?

    I am not valuable for you... that is a giving... You are not giving me any money... You want some value out of me... then get ready to pay....

    Your claim that you are already paying me and still not getting anything is basically... what word you use?... "retard"

    Please tell me how much money have you give me, and I will reimburse you in the totality of it.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by simpleman View Post
    I don't get your point...
    Of course you fucking don't which is why you double-down...nuthin like having yr idiotic biases confirmed heh? Give yr life meaning does it?

    You wanna sit around with the mens sporting yr LARP pyjamas and simplistic attitudes (apparently approaching revelation) about how the world 'really' works.

    So quick to lecture the forum on the most appropriate one-dimensional imbecilic view of how things 'really' are.

    From politics to economics without irony ... and yr on the buy-side of everything with cash you 'earned' by pimping yr stupid arse.

    in life's balance sheet you're liability, not an asset.

    Meh, what do ya expect from dick that has been raised his whole life being told he's special
    Last edited by MatrixTransform; 12-09-2017 at 11:05 PM.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

    And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

    "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
    "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

    "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixTransform View Post
    Of course you fucking don't which is why you double-down...nuthin like having yr idiotic biases confirmed heh? Give yr life meaning does it?

    You wanna sit around with the mens sporting yr LARP pyjamas and simplistic attitudes (apparently approaching revelation) about how the world 'really' works.

    So quick to lecture the forum on the most appropriate one-dimensional imbecilic view of how things 'really' are.

    From politics to economics without irony ... and yr on the buy-side of everything with cash you 'earned' by pimping yr stupid arse.

    in life's balance sheet you're liability, not an asset.

    Meh, what do ya expect from dick that has been raised his whole life being told he's special
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