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    Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html


    This is but one study of many, showing the decline since 1980 of testosterone in our society. There is a great chart at the link. I have seen similar studies doing a 100 year analysis showing a 400% drop in testosterone levels of the average male in 2010 compared to 1910 or so ( but please correct this if I am remembering this wrong). Our civilization is literally DYING, the men either through chemical environmental exposure, lower quality food, more stress etc etc are just not the MEN from a few generations ago hormonally.

    My own doctor has recommended 2000 dollar a month testosterone injections.

    Why is this not debated more by our government? Our men are becoming less healthy each generation, we are dying as a society, our health in freefall. My grandfather lived to 98, was strong as an ox, and could have sex 10 times a day. At under half his age I don't have a third of his power or energy, I don't expect to make it anywhere near 98 either.

    Can anyone add to the debate globally? Is this a global trend of all males with declining testosterone? Are there any nations where males are actually getting higher testosterone with each generation? Perhaps in expanding the average male length of life over the past 100 years, we have sacrificed in other areas of our body that made us have better sex or more energy?

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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    I impatiently await this information being used to create another "are men neccesary" article.

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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW_Oz2cAliM

    Here is a short 6 minute video talking about the endocrine disruptors that specifically target men and are causing erectile dysfunction and other serious health issues for men.

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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    Recent studies seems to indicate a connection between the use of the pill by women, and lower testosterone and sperm counts in men. When women who has been on the pill decides to get pregnant, there's still a high level of oestrogen hormones in their blood streams, from when they were still on the pill, that seems to have a great effect on the testosterone level in male foetuses. Besides that, there's a continuing exposure to these oestrogens through our drinking water, when unused pills are being thrown in the garbage, and ends up in our biosphere. The size of the testicles are also dimishing in western countries.

    http://www.ispub.com/journal/the-internet-journal-of-urology/volume-2-number-1/the-sperm-count-has-been-decreasing-steadily-for-many-years-in-western-industrialised-countries-is-there-an-endocrine-basis-for-this-decrease.html

    We're literally being bred out of existence by 'her choice', or rather turned into 'O-men'. Not really men, but not quite women.

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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    It used to be advice to use alternative contraception for 3/12 after coming off the pill before trying to conceive. Now it's not even mentioned.
    Also, almost no information is given to men on diet and lifestyle advice to improve the quality of sperm.

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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    Physical activity and diet have a huge part in this situation. Work your body hard and it will naturally respond by increasing testosterone to keep muscle mass and increase endurance. Sit on you ass all day and suck down microwaved burritos and your testosterone levels will decrease.

    Men in the past generally worked their asses off physically. Our sedentary life style with it's abundance mentality is affecting us, and not for the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimski
    Recent studies seems to indicate a connection between the use of the pill by women, and lower testosterone and sperm counts in men. When women who has been on the pill decides to get pregnant, there's still a high level of oestrogen hormones in their blood streams, from when they were still on the pill, that seems to have a great effect on the testosterone level in male foetuses. Besides that, there's a continuing exposure to these oestrogens through our drinking water, when unused pills are being thrown in the garbage, and ends up in our biosphere. The size of the testicles are also dimishing in western countries.

    http://www.ispub.com/journal/the-internet-journal-of-urology/volume-2-number-1/the-sperm-count-has-been-decreasing-steadily-for-many-years-in-western-industrialised-countries-is-there-an-endocrine-basis-for-this-decrease.html

    We're literally being bred out of existence by 'her choice', or rather turned into 'O-men'. Not really men, but not quite women.
    100% on the mark. Add to the idea above the levels of SSRI antidepressants in the water and we have a perfect situation where men are being affected in their virility and quality/quantity of sperm produced.

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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by manginamagic
    http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html


    This is but one study of many, showing the decline since 1980 of testosterone in our society. There is a great chart at the link. I have seen similar studies doing a 100 year analysis showing a 400% drop in testosterone levels of the average male in 2010 compared to 1910 or so ( but please correct this if I am remembering this wrong). Our civilization is literally DYING, the men either through chemical environmental exposure, lower quality food, more stress etc etc are just not the MEN from a few generations ago hormonally.

    My own doctor has recommended 2000 dollar a month testosterone injections.

    Why is this not debated more by our government? Our men are becoming less healthy each generation, we are dying as a society, our health in freefall. My grandfather lived to 98, was strong as an ox, and could have sex 10 times a day. At under half his age I don't have a third of his power or energy, I don't expect to make it anywhere near 98 either.

    Can anyone add to the debate globally? Is this a global trend of all males with declining testosterone? Are there any nations where males are actually getting higher testosterone with each generation? Perhaps in expanding the average male length of life over the past 100 years, we have sacrificed in other areas of our body that made us have better sex or more energy?
    I always wondered if the declining levels of testosterone might be due to the result of declining level of white knight behaviour in men. (and yes plastics, chemicals etc too). Not sure if its a bad thing or not.... maybe we are coming back to a more normalised (note, not "feminised") testosterone level? Is this because of the growing triumph of MGTOW.... we need less testosterone to protect and slave for women? I don't know the answer.

    Here is a brilliant essay about testosterone by one of thw world's leading biologists.... it will shake up some of our assumptions about testosterone: http://testosteronetrouble.blogspot.com.au/



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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    To be honest, it would not surprise me if a fantastic amount of the decline in testosterone is related to obesity. This News Article talks about it.

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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    I have noticed more men around me falling into this hyper-feminized form of masculinity. I will not rule out that foods & environment may have a hand to play in it, but...
    I'm convinced it is in large part a result of leftist-driven social constructivism. I know for a fact the education system (indoctrination centers) alone are a huge contributer to it. It has already been well documented that they would sooner medicate males into compliance than foster their natural boyhood desires for excitement & adventure.
    I will offer my theories on this, but be warned, I will now be marching into territories which some people may find offensive. I personally believe the death of masculinity is just one part of a larger agenda which also includes the rise of socialism, feminism & homosexuality.
    It is my own personal contention that feminism's 5 decade war on masculinity is breeding more effeminate & homosexual men. At least, I don't believe we would see the percentage of effeminate & homosexual men in society that we do today, if there was not this pervasive & constant attack on heterosexuality & an increasing societal desire to deny gender differences entirely. Today, you're praised if you're an effeminate or homosexual man because you're embracing the "new normal". Hell, even in this red pill environment, I'm betting there are those reading this who have PC bells & whistles going off in their heads from what I just wrote. "Oh, you can't say that about homosexuality". That's the problem right fucking there. Why aren't we even allowed to have the discussion? Why do you think that is? & for the record, no, I don't want to persecute gays or lock them up, or deny them the inalienable rights all human beings are entitled to. My opinions on homosexuality are largely libertarian. I find the practice repulsive, but whatever two adults do in the privacy of their home is ultimately their business. I'm just saying, do you think it's a coincidence that in the frozen feminist hell of socialist Sweden, they have a "straight hate day"?! & up until 150 years ago there was not one documented case of anybody being "born gay". These things have got to be connected.
    I'll tell you this much, almost every single male who has had the tenacity to openly confront us on our poster runs, or who I have caught tearing down & defacing our posters have been of the super skinny, hippy, ectomorph variety. Some carry shoulder bags that look dangerously close to purses. In some cases, if it weren't for their facial hair, they would almost look like chicks. Every single time one of them spoke to me, I could tell early on that they were also obvious leftists. They would frame their arguments in the context of the Obama administration & how righteous he & his feminist ilk are. This is simply the truth as I see it.

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    RE: Societal levels of Testosterone in serious decline past 100 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ybm
    To be honest, it would not surprise me if a fantastic amount of the decline in testosterone is related to obesity. This News Article talks about it.
    Chicken or the egg. Is it not possible that decreasing amounts of testosterone is resulting in an increase in obesity?

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