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  • Model Feminism VIII - Mainstream Media go MHRM

    Hi,

    Our evil feminized gummint broadcaster just had this 30 minute program about men and crime.
    I'm not sure if such a thing would be featured in US MSM.
    This is only a brief summary, many Q/As are not included here; at /.../ there's more stats and talk.
    (https://radio.nrk.no/serie/ekko-hove...5-2016#t=1m44s)

    M

    The female newsie, hereafter N, is obviously most "old school" critical of men - but not that much -, but the female experts are not.

    N quotes Swedish journalist Anna Mannheimer:
    "It's obvious who are the problem:
    Not immigrants, not social losers, not the oppressed.
    Who is burning cars, rioting, committing crime?
    All political parties blame different evildoers,
    But all criminals have one thing in common: They are men."
    (http://www.gp.se/nyheter/anna-mannhe...-män-1.143481)

    Ragnhild Bjoernebekk, Violence Researcher, Norwegian police, female:
    RB: Criminals are not representative for men.
    (Stats: Men commit all types of crimes; women have a narrower range: theft, fraud, embezzlement.
    The last 20 years, female criminality is on the rise. Drugs = equal.
    Less dangerous violence, lower sentencing, lower incarceration rates (5%). )

    N: So, why can't men follow rules?

    Vibeke Ottesen, psychology and criminology, female:
    (Questions are angled from evolutionary biology; it seems psychologists study this, too)
    VO: It's not 76 % of men who are criminals, but 76 % of criminals who are men.
    We evolutionary biologists see gender difference in every culture, also among animals. This must be due to evolution.
    Selection pressure on women: stay alive to tend kids.
    Selection pressure on men: take risks to gain status and resources.
    Primitive societies: if mother dies, 100 % of kids die. If father dies, 75 % of kids die.
    Conclusion: Women are primed to avoid physical anger

    N: Is this due to testosterone?
    VO: Of course. This kicks in at week 7 of pregnancy, so there is absolutely no social conditioning.
    (Stats: The difference in crime and violence is: Women avoid any cicrumstance of physical danger.
    Men do extreme sports, men are risk takers, also in work life, and there is the dark sid: male suicide.)

    - Bjoernebekk, if it is due to biology, more men should commit crime, but most do not. How come?
    RB: Ottesen is right, but wrt. development there are lifetime circumstances.
    Risk factors: congenital factors (brain, psychology). More boys are born this way.
    Dangerous childhood: triggers factors; safe childhood: avoids risk. /.../

    N (quotes Mannheimer) - Is this a good description of men?
    Dag Furuholmen, Norwegian psychologist, man:
    What is interesting is that this primitive generalization is given room in media in the first place,
    and that there is a climate in society for presenting a message like this.

    N: What is the reason ...

    DF: Wait a minute. 5% of boys and men are as RB describe, ergo 95 % of men are OK.
    That article doesn't present that.

    N: But she only says most criminals ...

    DF: She doesn't. She doesn't speak of criminals, but of _men_.
    She is degrading men, no wonder that makes people furious, like I am.
    This is so negatve for young boys, this collective negative stereotype.

    N: But men ... (crime stats): why?
    DF:
    - 40 % of boys grow up in homes with a precarious relationship to mothers. Mothers should shape up.
    - Extreme femininization in daycare and schools, no role models.
    - Rambunctiousness is called violence, but is merely boys doing social testing.

    N (interrupts): And do not women get off more easy than men?
    DF: 20 % of sex violence is perp. by women, but this is never mentioned, we don't want to see. /.../

    N: 2013 crime stats, 150 000 men, 24 000 women.
    DF: Exactly.
    Cause: domestic abuse, where women are in majority. /.../

    N: Girls are also victims, why do they not get violent?
    As the biologist said, women avoid the risk of violence.
    As late as WWII, "man the hero" was prominent - where is he now? /.../

    N: So, no mammoths, no men?
    DF: Do you expect men to change their evolutionary biology by snapping their fingers, by political fiat?

    N: How to prevent crime?
    RB: Give kids a better childhood, teach them right from wrong.
    Our minds can influence our genetic imperatives, to undercut undesireable acts.
    Only extremely high testost. levels induce aggression, the majority of men are ok. /.../

    N: DF, boys need this to avoid crime, agreed?
    DF: Yes, both boys and girls.

    N: They need the soft, feminine traits, i.e. be more feminzed.
    DF: Fathers' love is not second rate, but increases in importance one mother is bad.
    Men are very important for children.
    There is a trait polarization: good stuff are female traits, bad things are male traits.
    Very primitive view. /.../

    N: VO, are men discriminated against?
    VO: We cannot change biology by politics, but politics can do some things:
    - create a safe childhood.
    - also create a safe adulthood. Any crisis can trigger extremes.
    So make sure men have social mobility, ability to achieve status in legal ways. Be there for men in trouble and sorrow. /.../

    N: So when men are in crisis, the Neanderthal comes out. Should we let boys fight?
    DF: Yes. It produces the love hormone oxytocin. /.../

    N: Can boys learn from nosebleed, then?
    RB: Yes, they learn the rules, they learn self-control.
    But some take a longer time to learn, and cannot self regulate. /.../

    N: Men also advance humanity - "Who dares, wins". Is this true?
    VO: Absolutely....
    /.../

    N: And things are looking up: Violence is on its way down. Bye bye.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Manalysis View Post

    Vibeke Ottesen, psychology and criminology, female:
    (Questions are angled from evolutionary biology; it seems psychologists study this, too)

    VO: It's not 76 % of men who are criminals, but 76 % of criminals who are men.
    We evolutionary biologists see gender difference in every culture, also among animals. This must be due to evolution.
    Selection pressure on women: stay alive to tend kids.
    Selection pressure on men: take risks to gain status and resources.
    Primitive societies: if mother dies, 100 % of kids die. If father dies, 75 % of kids die.
    Conclusion: Women are primed to avoid physical anger
    ...and men are primed to avoid bullshit

    ...or at least they used to be
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

    And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

    "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
    "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

    "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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