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HEEEEEEY KEEEEEDS! Did you know a billion women on this planet have been raped and beaten? (So have several billion men, probably, but who the f*** cares about them?) It's the wimmenz who matter!
http://onebillionrising.org/
Damn. It seems I can't even log into Second Life without getting hit with ads from this....thing..... (SL has a huge female consumer base so it makes logical sense for a campaign like this to try and infect this kind of milieu.)
Nowhere, NOWHERE on the page do I see any mention of violence and rape considered an atrocity against men. (Only women can be victims of crimes, apparently.)
Any thoughts on this?
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ADDENDUM: Gah! I went to the Second Life Universe forums today and I found someone had begun a thread about the Billion Moms March or whatever the hell they're calling this campaign.... Someone (male) responded to the thread thusly:
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Originally Posted by Darkness View Post
Although this is something I can get behind 100% I do wish more of these movements would include abused children and men as well. Abuse is abuse and must be stamped out.
Sounds like a reasonable objection, right? Well, here's what forum member "Aimee" had to say:
I am so tired of hearing that one. There's always some jerk who comes up with that kind of nonsense, in threads such as the one about date rape of women. "But men get raped too".
This illogical argument gets applied, only by some men, and only about any campaign related to women's issues.
They don't apply it equally to any other campaigns about specific issues...
For example there's a campaign against the hunting of whales. Would you say they are wrong to do that? That if they want to campaign about whales, they should be campaigning for ALL threatened species on earth, otherwise they are being unfair to the other animals?
There are campaigns specifically about political prisoners (which are not about prison reform more generally for criminal prisoners too).
There are also campaigns for prison reform, wanting more humane treatment of convicted criminals.
Those are separate campaigns for obvious reasons (obvious to most people if not to you). Do you want Amnesty International to change their focus for you?
There was a campaign specifically about ending apartheid in South Africa. Do you think they were wrong to have that focus? that they should have campaigned about all kinds of oppression in every nation all over the world? Otherwise they were being unfair to oppressed people in Tibet?
Black South Africans were not the only people being oppressed at that time. And as you say, women are not the only people suffering from violence at this time. However there are very good demographic statistical reasons why the people who started this campaign chose to focus on assault and rape perpetrated on women.
Obviously that doesn't mean they don't care about children. No doubt some of the participants in this campaign are also participating in other campaigns about other human rights issues, such as child abuse.
If you want to join or start such a broad campaign, that ALL abuse of any humans, men and women and children, "must be stamped out", go for it. Nobody is stopping you from starting your own organization. But don't expect those who are currently focused on women's safety to broaden it to a general law and order campaign.
It's a fact that women are generally less safe than men in many nations, first world and third world -- unsafe in the street and unsafe in their own homes. If you don't care about that, just stay out of it. Trying to campaign for the rights of men in a venue that is about the abuse of women is a stupid and irrelevant intrusion.[/undefined]
Stupid and irrelevant? The fact that someone points out that a campaign which seeks to end violence would be more effective if it focused on helping everybody, (not just a select few based on whether they have a vagina or not)--that makes it a stupid and irrelevant intrusion? God, the nerve of some of these feministas.....
http://onebillionrising.org/
Damn. It seems I can't even log into Second Life without getting hit with ads from this....thing..... (SL has a huge female consumer base so it makes logical sense for a campaign like this to try and infect this kind of milieu.)
Nowhere, NOWHERE on the page do I see any mention of violence and rape considered an atrocity against men. (Only women can be victims of crimes, apparently.)
Any thoughts on this?
[hr]
ADDENDUM: Gah! I went to the Second Life Universe forums today and I found someone had begun a thread about the Billion Moms March or whatever the hell they're calling this campaign.... Someone (male) responded to the thread thusly:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkness View Post
Although this is something I can get behind 100% I do wish more of these movements would include abused children and men as well. Abuse is abuse and must be stamped out.
Sounds like a reasonable objection, right? Well, here's what forum member "Aimee" had to say:
I am so tired of hearing that one. There's always some jerk who comes up with that kind of nonsense, in threads such as the one about date rape of women. "But men get raped too".
This illogical argument gets applied, only by some men, and only about any campaign related to women's issues.
They don't apply it equally to any other campaigns about specific issues...
For example there's a campaign against the hunting of whales. Would you say they are wrong to do that? That if they want to campaign about whales, they should be campaigning for ALL threatened species on earth, otherwise they are being unfair to the other animals?
There are campaigns specifically about political prisoners (which are not about prison reform more generally for criminal prisoners too).
There are also campaigns for prison reform, wanting more humane treatment of convicted criminals.
Those are separate campaigns for obvious reasons (obvious to most people if not to you). Do you want Amnesty International to change their focus for you?
There was a campaign specifically about ending apartheid in South Africa. Do you think they were wrong to have that focus? that they should have campaigned about all kinds of oppression in every nation all over the world? Otherwise they were being unfair to oppressed people in Tibet?
Black South Africans were not the only people being oppressed at that time. And as you say, women are not the only people suffering from violence at this time. However there are very good demographic statistical reasons why the people who started this campaign chose to focus on assault and rape perpetrated on women.
Obviously that doesn't mean they don't care about children. No doubt some of the participants in this campaign are also participating in other campaigns about other human rights issues, such as child abuse.
If you want to join or start such a broad campaign, that ALL abuse of any humans, men and women and children, "must be stamped out", go for it. Nobody is stopping you from starting your own organization. But don't expect those who are currently focused on women's safety to broaden it to a general law and order campaign.
It's a fact that women are generally less safe than men in many nations, first world and third world -- unsafe in the street and unsafe in their own homes. If you don't care about that, just stay out of it. Trying to campaign for the rights of men in a venue that is about the abuse of women is a stupid and irrelevant intrusion.[/undefined]
Stupid and irrelevant? The fact that someone points out that a campaign which seeks to end violence would be more effective if it focused on helping everybody, (not just a select few based on whether they have a vagina or not)--that makes it a stupid and irrelevant intrusion? God, the nerve of some of these feministas.....
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