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    Edmonton shoe store's 'no-veil' policy unlikely to withstand human rights challenge, lawyer says

    This is how easy it is to fuck up your life in Canada. Say the wrong thing to the wrong person and BOOM, you've got to hire a lawyer to defend yourself against the Human Rights Commission and when you're found guilty they'll make you pay the complainant a financial sum. If you want to refuse somebody in your workplace, you've got to do it discreetly and for God's sakes, don't mention religion or race or sex or whatever. He should have just taken her broken shoe and let her wait forever, or been so snotty and rude that she stormed out (I can be pretty good at that one, heh heh).
    Stay single and prosper!

  • #2
    it used to be that you could refuse to give service to anyone if you owned the store in canada

    i guess that snot how it works anymore ;[
    Originally posted by MatrixTransform
    where were you before you put yourself last?
    Originally posted by TheNarrator
    Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar, single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave Cordon Bleu hobby kit. Shampoo-conditioner combos, sample-packaged mouthwash, tiny bars of soap. The people I meet on each flight? They're single-serving friends.

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    • #3
      you now have a situation in Canada where ppl hope to be discriminated against like they hope to win a lottery

      ive had supposed prospective tenants email sayin if you have a problem renting to ppl on assistance or disability pls get back to me

      ive had female tenants go around other tenants looking to get a false sexual harassment case going....no shame just, I gotta make money somehow.

      Canada is no place to be male or do business......talk about a land littered with minefields

      the whole, minorities rule, men are priviledged, whites are priviledged, straights are priviledged, working ppl are priviledged, victims must be believed, free lawyers, and cash rewards setup, is a goldmine tho.

      if it wasn't for the low taxes, booming economy, and warm climate id be tempted to leave.
      Last edited by menrppl2; 02-02-2016, 03:36 PM.
      A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Beour3rd View Post
        it used to be that you could refuse to give service to anyone if you owned the store in canada

        i guess that snot how it works anymore ;[

        Only if you're a woman, refusing service to a man.
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        It's time to call it out for what it is.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Beour3rd View Post
          it used to be that you could refuse to give service to anyone if you owned the store in canada
          I don't understand how this is even making it to court. If the store is private property, how can anyone claim that they have a 'right' to be on YOUR property or be served? Our local WalMart has the same 'no-face-covering' policy for the same reason as this shoe store does. Hoodies or balaclavas are not permitted to be worn while in the store.

          At the WalMart, you're on camera as soon as you enter through the door. There's even an overhead monitor showing you that you're face is on camera I'm assuming as a deterrent to shoplifting. You're less likely to steal if you know that the store already has your face.

          It's nothing to do with religious discrimination. If this lady wins this court case then we're really double-fucked here in Canada...
          "The truth is sometimes a poor competitor in the market of ideas" George F. Kennan

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          • #6
            double fucked....it was triple triple thirty years ago
            A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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            • #7
              Just go to the store down the street... I just can't stand the concept of forced association/trading.. particularly for private companies. No private citizen owes any other private citizen anything other than what they have put in a contract and agreed to (voluntarily).

              His store policy was to not serve anyone concealing their face. I don't see how a religious exception would work.. because this lady is NOT being forced to shop there, this is not a public 'must use' service. She voluntarily believes her religion.. the store manager voluntarily allows customers to come in OR not.

              Discrimination is what customers do by choosing who they give their money to.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Iggy View Post
                His store policy was to not serve anyone concealing their face. I don't see how a religious exception would work.. because this lady is NOT being forced to shop there, this is not a public 'must use' service. She voluntarily believes her religion.. the store manager voluntarily allows customers to come in OR not.
                So why would any lawyer say different? I'm really not getting this...
                "The truth is sometimes a poor competitor in the market of ideas" George F. Kennan

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                • #9
                  Wait, so do they kick you out if you are wearing a hoodie? Are we talking about the same thing?



                  Or do they just make you take the hood down?
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

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                  • #10
                    If the hoodie is covering your face, like a Burka, where it can actively conceal your face from recognition, then it would be against the store owner's policy for trade.

                    And here is the rub... how can you tell if a person wearing a burka is actually Muslim? Dow do you 'prove' that some stranger walking in your store is actually a practitioner of that particular religion and isn't simply using the burka as a government approved method of concealing your identity?

                    If people want to believe that the FSM tells them to wear a hood on their head.. so be it.. but forcing anyone (businesses owner or not) to allow any persons (unidentifiable or not) onto their private property is a violation of their property rights.. assuming the state still thinks property rights exist.

                    The thing is, I don't care about anyone's religious beliefs.. so long as those belief are not using the violence of the state or direct violence to infringe on my property rights. As soon you allow any religion the ability to use the gun in the room... then the separation of church and state is null and void.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ComradePrescott View Post
                      Wait, so do they kick you out if you are wearing a hoodie? Are we talking about the same thing?
                      Or do they just make you take the hood down?
                      Well I've worn hoodies and other types of winter hoods into the WalMart but I've always had then down before entering and there's never been a problem.

                      Here's an interesting story about what happened at one of the WalMarts in the States...

                      http://madworldnews.com/walmart-humi...eteran-muslim/
                      Last edited by Autolite; 02-02-2016, 05:24 PM.
                      "The truth is sometimes a poor competitor in the market of ideas" George F. Kennan

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                      • #12
                        charter of rights says freedom from discrimination based on religion

                        the store serves the public

                        the store policy discriminates against the public of the face covering religion

                        hrc has never lost a case

                        its just a Canada is the most fair and just country promotion.....so be grateful shut up work and pay
                        Last edited by menrppl2; 02-02-2016, 06:02 PM.
                        A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by menrppl2 View Post
                          charter of rights says freedom from discrimination based on religion

                          the store serves the public

                          the store policy discriminates against the public of the face covering religion

                          hrc has never lost a case

                          its just a Canada is the most fair and just country promotion.....so be grateful shut up work and pay
                          I guess that's saying that MY religious bullshit trumps YOUR property rights. I'm not sure that I'm entirely comfortable where all of this is heading. OTOH maybe 'freedom from discrimination based on religion' means that Catholics must allow Muslims in worship in their churches and visa-versa.

                          I think that might be interesting to see it enforced....
                          "The truth is sometimes a poor competitor in the market of ideas" George F. Kennan

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                          • #14
                            its time to leave.
                            Originally posted by MatrixTransform
                            where were you before you put yourself last?
                            Originally posted by TheNarrator
                            Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar, single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave Cordon Bleu hobby kit. Shampoo-conditioner combos, sample-packaged mouthwash, tiny bars of soap. The people I meet on each flight? They're single-serving friends.

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                            • #15
                              I'm curious.. is any private persons obligated to serve the public? What is the public? Are they not just other people who don't own the property that want to trade things on or in or produced by that property? What makes it public? Non-ownership? So non-owners have rights over owners, that oblige owners to trade with them, under involuntary conditions?

                              The public is just a concept, created by and enforced by the state, to justify the states existence, which is itself just a concept. So the public is what the state says it is... because its a state created concept.. which can be redefined as necessary to curry political favor. Moving the goalposts... neat trick!

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