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  • Dear Canadians,

    I have a question for you. Is the climate there ultra misandric in general, or is it just Toronto?

    http://www.torontosun.com/2013/02/06/dad-must-pay-child-support-for-3-kids-that-arent-his-court-rules

    Because holy crap.

    All three daughters are from different men? And if she knew that, she must have known all along. That poor, poor man.
    \"There he goes. One of God\'s own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.\"

  • #2
    RE: Dear Canadians,

    This shit is far more common than many men (most men) realize.
    De oppresso liber

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    • #3
      RE: Dear Canadians,

      Is it? That's sad. I guess you could say I'm still digesting my red pill in some respects. I'm fairly up to date on some topics, but lagging behind in others.
      \"There he goes. One of God\'s own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.\"

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      • #4
        RE: Dear Canadians,

        It's much much worse in the east than in the west, but it's everywhere none-the-less.

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        • #5
          RE: Dear Canadians,

          That's pretty terrible. I go to Canada fairly regularly with my job, but I'm really starting to see it in a different light. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised, everywhere western feminism has touched has had pretty similar results.
          \"There he goes. One of God\'s own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.\"

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          • #6
            RE: Dear Canadians,

            It's bad all over the country. East, west, doesn't matter. It was Edmonton (west) that birthed the recent "Don't Be That Guy' shaming campaign. The hate is well spread.
            Grandmother Stabs Her 4-Year-Old Grandson To Death
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIB4yE2xGkU

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            • #7
              RE: Dear Canadians,

              that story happened in Montreal, so no not only Toronto.
              i feel that the misandry is the general climate of urban areas, you go out into smaller towns and such its not so bad, still bad but the cities are far worse.

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              • #8
                RE: Dear Canadians,

                The poll on the page currently shows 91% are against the court's ruling -779 votes in total. 5% agree, 4% not sure.

                That's good news.

                Go vote everyone!!
                2 seconds of your time..
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                http://www.canadiancrc.com/newspaper_articles/Globe_and_Mail_Moms_Little_secret_14DEC02.aspx
                Mommy's little secret

                "Some peg the range at 5 to 10 per cent; others, such as Jeanette Papp of the University of California at Los Angeles, feel that 15 per cent is reasonable for the Western world, even if there is no hard evidence. "It's hard to do studies on these things for ethical reasons," says Dr. Papp, director of genotyping and sequencing in UCLA's department of human genetics. "I mean, how do you tell people what you're really looking for?"

                A British survey conducted between 1988 and 1996 by Robin Baker, a former professor at the University of Manchester, confirmed the 10-per-cent figure. That seems high to skeptics such as Dalhousie University geneticist Paul Neumann, although even he admitted that "my colleague, who's a woman, tells me women have no trouble believing it. . . . It's the men who can't."

                Bernard Dickens, a specialist in health law and policy at the University of Toronto, said that in another British example, the non-paternity rate was three times that.

                In the early 1970s, a schoolteacher in southern England assigned a class science project in which his students were to find out the blood types of their parents. The students were then to use this information to deduce their own blood types (because a gene from each parent determines your blood type, in most instances only a certain number of combinations are possible). Instead, 30 per cent of the students discovered their dads were not their biologically fathers."
                Grandmother Stabs Her 4-Year-Old Grandson To Death
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIB4yE2xGkU

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                • #9
                  RE: Dear Canadians,

                  It's complicated because the children already have a father relationship with their "adopted" father. I can see a very legitimate case for keeping the father and children together if possible. Not knowing the reasons for separation, I don't know what would be in the best interest of the children.

                  At the end of the day, somebody has to raise them. What alternatives are there? Going after the other men could be unfair for them too. Again, not knowing their situation, and their expectations or understandings of their affairs. It's possible these men didn't know the mother was even married. Similarly, government funding or shelters is just passing the burden on to the taxpayers, although I think that this is ultimately more humane than punishing an innocent man. A part of society is to support the innocent, which includes the children in this case.

                  Really, the one person who has all the information, and who should be held responsible for everything, is the mother. But we all know that won't be happening any time soon. Even if she alone was responsible for paying for the children, would she? She's already demonstrated dishonesty and deceit. If she had to pay child support to her ex-husband, would she honor her commitment? Would the man accept it? Would she be arrested for failing to pull through?

                  Sorry for ranting a bit, but I've been wondering about this kind of thing for a while now. Obviously the current situation isn't fair to men, and consequently isn't an ideal solution. I have trouble coming up with any alternatives though that don't also cause unjust suffering. The only thing that works for me is for the woman to take responsibility for her own actions, but this is obviously something that couldn't be legislated or enforced; it would have to come from her. And if it did, there wouldn't be the problem in the first place. So what can we, as a society, actually do?

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                  • #10
                    RE: Dear Canadians,

                    we can support the development of a reliable male contraceptive so that men have a say towards whether or not they want to have children. this can and should be funded and legislated to be as available as female contraceptive. this will effectively prevent any man from having fatherhood forced upon him.

                    in the cases where she lies about who the father is so that even if he is using a contraceptive she says he is the father anyways, we need to make paternity tests standard practice and since there would now be a male contraceptive and a female contraceptive, equality of responsibility in terms of pregnancy is created so we can hold the man who neglected to be responsible enough to use the contraceptive responsible.

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                    • #11
                      RE: Dear Canadians,

                      I agree that we can do this looking forward, but in cases where a man has already been raising the children for years, such methods won't really help much. The future should probably be the priority though.

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