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  • Are men checking out of the dating scene?

    Have you seen men desappearing from the dating market? At times it seems like there are fewer men at singles events. Then I read these two blogs. It seems that I am correct?

    So what is your experience? Are there fewer and fewer men in the dating scene?

    Yes, Men Do Leave the Market
    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.ca...ve-market.html

    Guys opting out of the game
    https://badgerhut.wordpress.com/2013...t-of-the-game/

  • #2
    On more than a few occasions I've unknowingly stumbled into bars and restaurants when they where holding singles meetups. It seemed that the women outnumbered the guys at least 3-to-1. Then again, the women who were there looked and acted like pure trash.

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    • #3
      You gotta be a blue pill fool to be jumping through hoops for today's woman.

      The entire online dating scene is about sad waning women trying to use the last of fading sexual market value to secure a provider now that the cock-bouncing and corporate swash-buckling has gotten tiresome.

      Alpha guys with game are fucking these women already (WITHOUT jumping through their hoops or parting with resources to do it) and the best prize for the chumps that do is raising that jerk's kid as his own and pretending it doesn't break his heart that 'his' kid grows up to look like some dude his wife used to fuck behind his back.
      "Being a cunt doesn't make you wrong." ComradePrescott

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      • #4
        I like Maxx's signature line, but its not complete.
        It should read, Being a cunt doesn't make you wrong, being WRONG makes you wrong"
        Kinda like old Al Bundy said, "its not the pants that makes you look fat, its the FAT that makes you look fat"

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        • #5
          Women bang alphas but marry betas. When cashed up Betas leave the dating market. That's it. Game over.

          Are computer savvy betas educating themselves about marriage? Has the Internet woken men up about the reality of marriage?

          Maybe it's true. Men are walking away.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Never_Marry View Post
            Women bang alphas but marry betas. When cashed up Betas leave the dating market. That's it. Game over.

            Are computer savvy betas educating themselves about marriage? Has the Internet woken men up about the reality of marriage?

            Maybe it's true. Men are walking away.
            I think this might be correct, all the guys in my computer courses are more cautious of women and more accepting of red pill comments than my not so computer literate aquantences.

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            • #7
              Women don't marry alpha males? Whaa?
              And why is there a distinct difference between the two, I don't think I know any men that don't have traits of both alphas and betas.
              Why does it matter am I missing something?

              And wouldn't it be just as likely that people who are computer savvy have feminist tendencies as not?
              And why do people think computer savvy men seem to be more often betas? Hmmm.
              The deepest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers.

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              • #8
                Ok, I'll translate for you.

                Some men have what a lot of women consider charm and can easily get sex thanks to that. This is what alphas refer to. Now, these "alphas" can get sex anytime they want, with (almost) as many women as they want. If one turns them down, no big deal, there's always the next one. These guys are (generally) not looking for stable relationships.

                Now, as women get older, they are considered by most men as less and less attractive.

                So, the women who don't want to stand on their two feet, as they get older and start to notice they attract less and less sex, try to find a less attractive guy, but one who pays the bills before they get totally unattractive, sex him up and marry him.

                Is my translation clear enough?

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                • #9
                  Trust wrote:
                  >> And wouldn't it be just as likely that people who are computer savvy have feminist tendencies as not?
                  And why do people think computer savvy men seem to be more often betas? Hmmm. <<


                  Computer savvy beta means a guys who is not alpha and knows how to use a computer. Sure there are betas who don't know how to use a computer. Computer illiterate betas can't educate themselves as to what is going on in marriage because CBS, NBC, ABC, the New York Times etc etc basically media in general never cover men's issues and the financial rape they go thru in divorce court. So betas who don't know how to use a computer are screwed.

                  The guys who do know how to use a computer can by pass popular media and educate himself. More and more betas are learning.

                  And as my original post asks. Are these men dropping out of the dating scene? Is there a visible shortage of men at single events? And clubs?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VashValika View Post
                    Ok, I'll translate for you.

                    Some men have what a lot of women consider charm and can easily get sex thanks to that. This is what alphas refer to. Now, these "alphas" can get sex anytime they want, with (almost) as many women as they want. If one turns them down, no big deal, there's always the next one. These guys are (generally) not looking for stable relationships.

                    Now, as women get older, they are considered by most men as less and less attractive.

                    So, the women who don't want to stand on their two feet, as they get older and start to notice they attract less and less sex, try to find a less attractive guy, but one who pays the bills before they get totally unattractive, sex him up and marry him.

                    Is my translation clear enough?
                    Yeah. Kinda strange though.
                    I am not sure if women really try to find a less attractive man just to pay the bills and marry him. I thought that now women have that "I don't need a man so I am going to do work myself" kinda kicked in and they want to marry a little older sometimes to get their careers in order or whatever. At least a portion of the time.
                    Why are women doomed to be ugly if they get older to most guys? I mean youth is good of course but if you stay nice and tight lookin and maybe get a brow lift I am sure men their age that are alpha males would be into them.

                    I just think there has to be a good portion of girls that don't care if a man is hot or ugly, or makes good money or not.
                    I don't know I have two exes. One hot, one ugly. One did his own thing and had girls lined up for him, and one was shy and nervous and I was his first actual girlfriend because he was rather awkward at getting to know people I guess. But I was friends with both of these guys for a long time before I dated them, so none of the things like status and physical appearance mattered to me. Specially not money.
                    What I mean to say is there has to be some girls that genuinely don't give a shit about that stuff if they like someone enough to form a relationship with them.
                    Don't they just like someone and date them and then maybe marry them? I didn't know there was a science like women get desperate and just pick a less attractive man on purpose to marry her before she gets ugly. Are you sure they wouldn't generally just both be getting uglier with age and hit things off and get married like normal people?
                    The deepest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers.

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                    • #11
                      I clearly said that it was the women who don't want to stand on their two feet. The majority of people would take the easy way out of responsibility and hard work by getting someone else to pay the bills for them if they could get away with it.

                      I'm from France, and here there are a lots of couple with 10, maybe 12 children. They get government funds for having children, so why work if I can just get a lot of children and put them in front of a TV or video game to keep them occupied? These kids growing up without an education nor role models will grow up to become the troubled youth. The kind who will stab to steal a single cigarette.

                      Turns out, the social pressure (and it increasingly becomes the legal obligation) put on men to provide for their wifes makes that you can get an instant ticket to live the high life without working. If you're a woman that is. Note that I am quite sure that if men could get away with the same crap you'll have the same problem with men.

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                      • #12
                        Trustory, the alpha / beta thing is kind of a generalization of a lot of phenomena and I don't think things are nearly as clear cut and archetypal as PU aficionados make it out to be. But its helpful to describe complex behavior patterns quickly.

                        Are women biological automatons that catch baby rabies at 35 and immediately try to infect the nearest man? No. Do they have some sudden pheramonal shift whereby they go from exclusively dating sexy urban cave men to pudgy Dilberts? No.

                        But how many women reach a point where they say they've had enough "fun" and now it's time to be "serious" and you can't tell me there's a huge priority shift there.

                        And how many marriages consist of a woman who doesn't really appreciate her husband and a man who just grits his teeth to get through it until the kids are old enough? How many marriages do the women seem to have the attitude that she's higher value so he's got to "work for it?" How many men are out there toiling like a slave to support their family only to be laughed at all the time by their daughers? How many women seem to think that the first thing a man needs to hear when he gets home is endless whinimg and nagging?

                        To me this is... a normal, "happy" marriage. Its also the dynamic between a woman and a man she's not really attracted to put barely tolerates. In short, a beta.

                        Nothing like the jerks she used to have "fun" with.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Fatherless View Post
                          Trustory, the alpha / beta thing is kind of a generalization of a lot of phenomena and I don't think things are nearly as clear cut and archetypal as PU aficionados make it out to be. But its helpful to describe complex behavior patterns quickly.

                          Are women biological automatons that catch baby rabies at 35 and immediately try to infect the nearest man? No. Do they have some sudden pheramonal shift whereby they go from exclusively dating sexy urban cave men to pudgy Dilberts? No.

                          But how many women reach a point where they say they've had enough "fun" and now it's time to be "serious" and you can't tell me there's a huge priority shift there.

                          And how many marriages consist of a woman who doesn't really appreciate her husband and a man who just grits his teeth to get through it until the kids are old enough? How many marriages do the women seem to have the attitude that she's higher value so he's got to "work for it?" How many men are out there toiling like a slave to support their family only to be laughed at all the time by their daughers? How many women seem to think that the first thing a man needs to hear when he gets home is endless whinimg and nagging?

                          To me this is... a normal, "happy" marriage. Its also the dynamic between a woman and a man she's not really attracted to put barely tolerates. In short, a beta.

                          Nothing like the jerks she used to have "fun" with.
                          ahh okay it makes a little more sense now. Needless to say though people need to figure people out more before they marry them so they have at least a good idea they are not coming home to a naggy fat woman. I stay up 3 days a week until 3 or 4 am (those are they days I tend to spend more time on here to pass time) waiting for my man to come home and I am usually nekkid by the time he unlocks the door. He would never come home to bitching. Nor should I when I come home from work either. If people think that's a typical happy marriage they are doing it very wrong. But it is true too many dads are coming home to ungrateful wives and daughters. But my father was never one of them nor would my husband be either.
                          I am not sure women would really try to purposefully marry a man that is less attractive and they barely tolerate though. That sounds fishy. Why not marry a man like the ones you used to have fun with? Idk the only guy I had any no strings attached "fun" with was because he was attractive and I was drunk and frisky. He actually had the most feministy beta male characteristics of any of the guys I dated almost. Maybe. I don't know. Who is to say a beta male is less attractive too?
                          Okay I am going to google this and try to understand it more. Okay so I am reading stuff like: beta males are less aggressive, might not be as confident, might not carry himself as well, might lack charm.
                          okay fair enough...but he could still be hot and so you could have "fun" with a beta male then. Who wants to marry that though? Might be alright, depends on the guy, but doesn't sound ideal of the bat though. lol.
                          Alpha males: have more charm, more competitive, owns up to his mistakes but is not apologetic, would never do generic things to impress a girl.
                          oh man that sounds like husband material way more than the first one.
                          I don't understand fully still. Nope. Sorry guys. I think I'm just gonna let it go I can't make sense of it.
                          The deepest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Trustory View Post
                            Women don't marry alpha males? Whaa?
                            Alphas do marry, but only once they’ve played the field sufficiently. They choose who they marry, the woman has no real say in the matter. She’s enamoured with him because he flicks all her switches, of course she’s going to say yes.

                            There are ladies who turn alphas down, but a lot of them are putty in an alphas hands. I think many women go from one alpha male to the next. I don’t think many women who do this are particularly happy.

                            I think women like to pretend they’re a lot more savvy than they actually are when it comes to choosing a partner. They frequently end up an emotional wreck after they’ve been dumped by an alpha male, and then they like to play the victim. I like to laugh at them at this point.

                            Originally posted by Trustory View Post
                            And why is there a distinct difference between the two, I don't think I know any men that don't have traits of both alphas and betas.
                            An alpha is basically someone who plays the field, he goes from woman to woman. He finds it pretty easy to bed whoever he wants. It might be he has a sensitive side and likes kittens, or sunsets or cross-stitch. That doesn’t matter, it’s his player status that makes him an alpha.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jonesey505 View Post
                              An alpha is basically someone who plays the field, he goes from woman to woman. He finds it pretty easy to bed whoever he wants. It might be he has a sensitive side and likes kittens, or sunsets or cross-stitch. That doesn’t matter, it’s his player status that makes him an alpha.
                              Hmmm...So then what is my husband? Maybe I am biased because he is my husband but I am sure he is an alpha male. He is competitive and charming and girls have always wanted him and before I dated him girls warned me he was a player and used women. He has a nice beard and he is fairly confident. He chose to marry me even though plenty of other girls were after him but we hit it off super well. My husband flirts with every woman ever. If she is 40 he will flirt with her. He doesn't care. He is not a follower and when we were friends or dated he never did generic shit to impress me.
                              But the kicker. He never really did play the field. He never went from woman to woman. Granted he got head from quite a few broads but no where near the amount he could have. And it's not like it's hard to be 18 and sexually active when you're good looking so I did my share of fun things too. But he was able to bed whoever he wanted, but he didn't always do it. He still has female friends that he had when he was 18 and I am friends with them as well. He just was never a "player". So does that mean my husband is a beta male because he wasn't ever a player? So basically if alpha males are just players, then why don't you just use that word instead?
                              The deepest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers.

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