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  • Originally posted by mr_e View Post
    All of the above-- meh-- the thing is, and you just proved it yourself. When you break things down bit by bit and analyze it a little at a time, and you aren't hell-bent for some particular outcome and no other result will do-- there *ARE* often other possibilities and other explanations. Whether they are true in this case is, at this point I think, largely irrelevant. It will work its way through the courts and maybe the real truth will come out-- whatever it is-- and maybe not. It doesn't matter really if he's guilty or innocent, he can be railroaded either way, and the people on the various sides will make of it all what they want anyway, and they'll use it as political fodder and moral justification to rationalize whatever actions they want to take. That's how it all always starts. The rest is just a matter of how well whatever you have can be defended, isn't it? When the rule of law breaks down and people stop believing in the system-- it all falls apart and the only thing you have is what you can personally protect.
    Perhaps...

    I think the system is overrated... This system is rather new, and I am not impressed by it.

    I don't think we need the system, in order to have order, or civilization, anyway...

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    • Originally posted by simpleman View Post
      Can you elaborate... how and when.. what?
      who shot who in the what now?

      this post holds more valid content than any conversation with simpleman.
      Originally posted by MatrixTransform
      where were you before you put yourself last?
      Originally posted by TheNarrator
      Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar, single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave Cordon Bleu hobby kit. Shampoo-conditioner combos, sample-packaged mouthwash, tiny bars of soap. The people I meet on each flight? They're single-serving friends.

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      • Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        Perhaps...

        I think the system is overrated... This system is rather new, and I am not impressed by it.

        I don't think we need the system, in order to have order, or civilization, anyway...

        one time a feminist told me she was an anarchist.
        i informed that if she was truly an anarchist then she was an idiot.

        because under anarchy. she would need an escort everywhere she went. and she would be fucking said escort(s) or she would most likely get raped and die on her own. she's delusional and has no grasp of what anarchy is.


        hahahahahaha

        dude you would be one of the first people dead if there was no system you're just as bright as her.
        Originally posted by MatrixTransform
        where were you before you put yourself last?
        Originally posted by TheNarrator
        Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar, single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave Cordon Bleu hobby kit. Shampoo-conditioner combos, sample-packaged mouthwash, tiny bars of soap. The people I meet on each flight? They're single-serving friends.

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        • Originally posted by simpleman View Post
          Can you elaborate... how and when.. what?
          No.

          You'll recognize it when you get there.
          "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

          And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

          "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
          "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

          "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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          • Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            I don't think we need the system, in order to have order, or civilization, anyway...
            Makes you wonder how the system came into being in the first place heh?

            ...or dont you bother troubling yourself with such notions?
            "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

            And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

            "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
            "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

            "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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            • Originally posted by MatrixTransform View Post
              Makes you wonder how the system came into being in the first place heh?

              ...or dont you bother troubling yourself with such notions?
              Probably one of those things women demanded in the name of equality, or something...

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              • Originally posted by MatrixTransform View Post
                No.

                You'll recognize it when you get there.
                Well this sounds less threatening than the other one... I am going to assume you did no mean playing human game.

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                • Geez you are a moron.

                  Are you seriously claiming that something I said in a forum post is 'threatening' whilst at the same time suggesting that anarchy would be a better solution to a civilized life?

                  and somehow at the same claiming to be propping up a 'serious' discourse on the events at Charlottesville

                  You do realize that probably 90% of people view you and your idiot gibber as pernicious as the idiot gibber of the opposing side?

                  dont you?

                  grow the fuck up you idiot ... you're among men ... behave like one
                  "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

                  And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

                  "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
                  "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

                  "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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                  • Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    Probably one of those things women demanded in the name of equality, or something...
                    pathetic, trite and full-o-shit boy

                    Why IS there a system?

                    Tell me numb-nuts...how did Hitler come to power?
                    Last edited by MatrixTransform; 08-19-2017, 12:30 PM.
                    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

                    And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

                    "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
                    "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

                    "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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                    • To that end, the mayor is also moving forward by asking the General Assembly to give localities authority over their monuments and the power to ban open-carry or concealed weapons during public events that pose security threats.
                      Did I miss the part where a bunch of people got shot in Charlottesville? If anything the fact that there were armed people there and no one was shot should increase our faith in people's restraint. Is "banning guns at public events" just a weird overreaction to be seen doing something, anything at all? Or is t another example of "never let a good crisis go to waste"?
                      "...but when she goes off you, she will not just walk away, she will walk away with your fucking skin in a jar." ~~ DoctorRandomercam
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                      • "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

                        And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

                        "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
                        "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

                        "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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                        • Originally posted by TheNarrator View Post
                          one time a feminist told me she was an anarchist.
                          i informed that if she was truly an anarchist then she was an idiot.

                          because under anarchy. she would need an escort everywhere she went. and she would be fucking said escort(s) or she would most likely get raped and die on her own. she's delusional and has no grasp of what anarchy is.


                          hahahahahaha

                          dude you would be one of the first people dead if there was no system you're just as bright as her.
                          That is so absolutely true.
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                          • Originally posted by Mifune View Post
                            Did I miss the part where a bunch of people got shot in Charlottesville? If anything the fact that there were armed people there and no one was shot should increase our faith in people's restraint. Is "banning guns at public events" just a weird overreaction to be seen doing something, anything at all? Or is t another example of "never let a good crisis go to waste"?
                            Of course. The neo-nazi used a *CAR* to murder someone so logic dictates that the proper reaction is to ban *GUNS*. Typical weak-minded liberal thinking.
                            FEMINISM is a HATE GROUP - Feminists are HATEFUL PEOPLE
                            It's time to call it out for what it is.
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                            • Originally posted by voidspawn View Post
                              Have to correct myself too, can't actually find confirmation the maroon vehicle hit Ms Heyer.
                              The wingnut hit Ms Meyer directly and she flew over the roof of the middle car and rested on the windshield.
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                              • Originally posted by Grumpy Old Man View Post
                                The wingnut hit Ms Meyer directly and she flew over the roof of the middle car and rested on the windshield.
                                Aye, you can't tell from the video the identity of the person, but you can see that it's tragic and horrific what happened to Ms Heyer.

                                I made a fuller observation on post 139 in this thread. Placed corrections as more evidence has had time to be looked at. Always hard to make proper observations, therefore more eyes and more discussion helps. I've been on a juries quite a few times, and done my share of witness reports to police and authorities. The justice system has to do its job, people have to stop trying to compromise it. Pronouncing pre-judgements kicks off the nasty chain of accusations that turns to a witch hunt, and it's not taken long for the manipulators and hatemongers to target the MHRM.

                                You have to go back to the evidence and say what you can see, not what you think is going on in people's minds. I'm solid believer that the principles of justice that have taken a long time to establish are our most important line of defence against chaos and brutality, if not the only effective one. Every jury I've served on everyone from all backgrounds displayed a solemn commitment to those principles, we were reminded of them many times by the judges and court officials. Of all life experiences those convinced me that we can live as people from diverse backgrounds, beliefs and political views together in a civilised society.
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